Nolan & Snyder: Let’s Count the Number of Things Wrong with Superman Returns
Now before everyone goes and gets their panties in a bunch, let me establish a few things:
-I’m writing this because I want the reboot to be as good as possible.
-I’m not asking you to agree with my list; it’s my list.
-Some will say, “But I liked Superman Returns.” That’s not the point here; it wasn’t all that it could be or a sequel would’ve been greenlit almost immediately.
So having said that:
1. Make it a complete reboot.
The only thing that I would retain from what’s gone on before is the music; I think that John Williams’ score has become just as iconic and identified with the character as the powers and the shield. The problem with Singer’s film is that it was a loose sequel/homage, which actually then lends it to a host of other problems as we’ll discover later.
Other than the unforgettable Superman theme (not the whole movie score; while awesome, it automatically makes it another homage), start fresh in your own universe. No need to drag Donner, Lester, Brando’s voice, etc. with you. When Clark changes to Superman, I want to hear John Williams’ theme, but other than that, New Melodies ‘R’ Us.
2. Have Superman’s motivations make sense.
Because leaving to find a long dead planet after all this time, with no explanation to loved ones,
and then crashing back after five years was just a wtf way to start the whole movie. It made no sense. So whatever you have Superman do in your film, when you establish it, have it line up with his character as it is generally known.
3. Don’t blow the First Appearance Big Reveal.
If there’s anything that audiences salivate for, it’s for that “HELL YEAH” moment when both the hero
and the villain make their first appearances onscreen. No one wanted to see Lex for the first time in the bed of an old woman with cannibalistic dogs and hints of Lex “pleasuring” her(cripes I just vomited), nor Superman passing out in his mother’s arms with his space travel suit on. You’ve only got one shot at that all important first appearance moment. Don’t blow it.
4. Light the movie like it’s Metropolis…not Gotham.
This whole thing was lit so darkly
until it had an overly sombre, dour & tragic feel, and lit so poorly until you couldn’t see what was going on half the time. It both literally and figuratively cast a pall on everything.
5. Have the Villain’s “Big Scheme” Be UnStupid.
Lex’s asswipe conceived idea of
“bringing fire to the people” by creating Krypton crystal based land masses so he could destroy the other continental bodies and corner the market on livable real estate was about the dumbest bullshit I’ve seen in all my days. A so-called criminal mastermind should do better than that. And also, not keep repeating the same damn scam scheme. And, Miss Tessmacher betrays Lex? Again? Only she’s named Kitty this time? *headdesk*
6. Make Superman figure out how to lock a Door.
Having Lex break into the Fortress of Sucktitude for a SECOND DAMN TIME,
know all about its secrets, and pimp the A.I. for even more information is just ridiculous. And, um…….”Tell me everything.” Does that friggin’ mean that LEX KNOWS HE’S CLARK? Dangling unanswered plot points anyone? This movie’s servin’ ‘em up a’plenty.
Superman should know better than to leave the Fortress open and unguarded, with absolutely no security system of any kind, and foreaven’s sake, those crystals and the Jor-El A.I. shouldn’t respond to anybody but Kal-el. How hard is that to understand?!?
7. If you’re going to spend time in Smallville, let it have a Purpose.
The audience got absolutely no new information about Superman from the
Smallville scenes; so what was the point of them? At this point, we don’t need nostalgia about Clark growing up. We got it already, from the Donner films to 10 years of Smallville on the CW.
8. Casting. Casting, casting, casting.
Brandon Routh – Never made me feel like I was in the presence of unearthly power, in costume or not. Right face for Clark, but no impact as the Man of Steel. And the most oft seen expression on Routh’s face? Boredom.
Kate Bosworth – Too young, wrong face, too skinny, and just completely unbelievable as an ambitious Pulitzer Prize winning reporter. Just one of the biggest casting FUBARS in recent memory.
Kevin Spacey – Love him as an actor, hated him as Lex. Didn’t bring anything unique to the role, and I for one am sick of campy Lex. “krrrIIPtonite” and “WROOONNGG!!!” were like fingernails on a chalkboard.
Everybody else in the cast is barely worth mentioning. Which is a shame. Just so unbelievably unmemorable and replaceable by other actors.
Love them or hate them, but Reeve/Kidder, Cain/Hatcher, and Welling/Durance have left their mark on the Superman legend. But this movie? Yeah, not so much.
9. CGI.
Nolan supposedly has a rep for “realism” and “real world grounding” which just makes me shudder when it comes to his take on Superman.
Nevertheless, CGI will be unavoidable to pull off the Man of Steel, so it needs to be less obvious than the CGI Routh Superman that we saw in way too many scenes.
10. Iconic Moments.
*sigh* When Routh pulls his shirt open, in the middle of the street in broad daylight, it was just a big waste of an iconic moment.
When the shirt comes open and the shield comes out, it needs to have a build up, dramatic tension, and it needs to last for more than 2 seconds onscreen. We didn’t get another iconic moment until way later, when he’s putting the car down, and that was rushed past as well.
11. Sakes a’mighty, that Costume.
Really? Do I really even have to say this? Superman’s look has become iconic in its own right. So there was no need to create a raised shield made of little “s’s,” to make the shield too small, to make a heavy looking leather cape, and to make the colors stripper blue and dirty blood maroon red. What the hell was Singer thinking?
FIXED!
12. Superman’s Character.
Superman spent almost the entire movie LITERALLY STALKING LOIS. Um, that’s not Kal-El. He certainly wouldn’t use his X-ray vision to spy on someone in their own home. That was EmoMan, not Superman.
He also wouldn’t try and make Lois cheat on Richard with him; if Lois had moved on, Superman would’ve been hurt for sure, but he would’ve respected Lois’ choice.
13. Don’t Make Every Human Being in the movie Blind & Stupid.
The big conceit of the Superman legend is that he can hide in plain sight. Behind a pair of glasses. With what has to be one of the most famous faces in the world. That somehow Lois, Jimmy & Perry can work with him, and look right at him every day, notice that Clark and Superman are never around at the same time, and they don’t get it. An office full of reporters. Um…okay.
But when Superman has been friggin’ gone for five years, and then he and Clark just HAPPEN to both show up at the same time, and NO ONE puts two and two together??? *headdesk* Lois, Perry, & Jimmy we’ve come to accept as a bigass wink. But everybody??? GMAFB.
14. Show Superman kicking some real ass.
Did he even throw a real punch in this movie?
Were his powers on display for more than like 60 seconds? Ever? Can we please have a Superman movie where he fights hard, kicks ass, and we see those splendiforous powers on display? With no shaky cam so we can actually see what’s happening?
15. Superman & Lois MUST have chemistry.
That’s pretty damn self-explanatory.
16. That Kid. That ridiculous, insufferable, pathetic, whiny, puke-faced, annoying, out of place kid.
He had absolutely no place or purpose in this story, and only ended up making Superman look like a deadbeat dad. He literally added nothing, and could’ve been removed altogether without changing the plot at all. And his convenient emerging super powers were beyond contrived.
Superman and Lois don’t, and have never, needed a kid to work as a couple. Newt changed everything in Aliens. This kid made me wish I could feed him to a facehugger.
17. Pacing.
1 hour and 30 minutes into this ball of snot and I’m bored to tears. In a movie about an alien that looks like a man that can bend steel in his bare hands, and is faster than a speeding bullet and more powerful than a locomotive. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Sure.
18. Kryptonite.
The ubiquitous, always effective, overused mineral from the ol’ hometown. If it must be used, at least let its use be consistent.
First of all, you’ve got to decide exactly how it affects Superman.
If it takes away his powers, then he’s human, but he should still be able to fight like an ordinary man. If it makes him sick because of radiation poisoning, then he still has his powers, he’s just too weak to use them. Which means he’s still invulnerable to some degree. His invulnerability comes from his dense molecular structure, not from metabolizing sunlight into all those powers.
Second of all, how much does it take to affect him? Does the quantity and mass of kryptonite have anything to do with how Superman reacts to it, or is an ounce of kryptonite just as deadly as a ton of it? Since Singer established that this was a continuation of the Donner universe, it makes absolutely no sense to have a 16 oz rock render Reeve/Superman damn near incoherent, yet Routh/Superman can land on an ISLAND MADE OF KRYPTONITE. And then get his ass kicked. And then get stabbed. And then come back and lift that same island. W.T. Flying.F.
Thirdly, how long do the effects last, and how long does it take Clark to recover? Will any wound that he sustains while weakened automatically be healed when he repowers?
The internal logic of the Superman legend when it comes to this whole kryptonite thing is just screwy; it would be nice to see something definitive.
19. Superman does not need to be Punked and Humiliated.
I personally cringed when I saw the scenes on the Lexville Krypto Island at the theater, and I never watch them when I view the movie again.
Ever. Because I can’t stand to see the Man of Steel like that; it wasn’t just that he was weakened, that happened in Donner’s movie. It’s that he got his ass handed to him, and rolled over like a dog, and needed to be rescued by Cyclops and Lois and Super Bastard, screaming while the krypto shard was being pulled out, and then ended up in the freaking hospital after his miraculous mountain man move.
With his costume just ripping right off like it’s ordinary cloth. I just did not, and do not, feel any need to see the Man of Steel go through all of that. I don’t want to see Superman Deconstructed. I want to see him triumphant. And he’d have been dead if it weren’t for the Whites.
20. A Solid 3 Act Structure.
What a disappointing third “act,” if you can even call it that. What was the central conflict of the movie, that Lex had stolen the krypto crystals? Because if so, not only was the resolution just pitiful, but the rest of the movie then becomes superfluous, and did Superman even recover the original crystals that Lex had stolen after Kitty threw them away? Plus, everybody realizes that Superman wouldn’t have been able to lift that island that way, right? Not because of strength, but because of leverage.
Lois Lane going to that hospital and not being MOBBED by TMZ
and whomever else? Lois Lane in GENERAL being able to operate without being constantly followed and harassed when the whole world seems to know that she’s Superman’s girlfriend? That stupid Jason kid not being one of the most watched children in the world? The way people obsess over Suri Cruise and Shiloh Pitt? And no one, not even an office full of reporters, notices that yet AGAIN Clark is nowhere around? And then, having the comPLETEly anti-climactic scenario of Lois telling him that she loves him in the hospital, on his deathbed, a la Trinity and Neo, was just lame beyond belief. There wasn’t even a fight, Lex is stranded on some stupid island somewhere, Superman recovers, flies off, and then goes to see his illegitimate child and gives some lame speech? No talk of child support, or helping Lois raise someone that’s a human/kryptonian hybrid, no talk of offering to help with his emerging powers, what this means for Lois & Richard’s relationship…um, what? Talk about dangling participles. Holy crap.
People want to see a satisfying emotional conclusion to the story in the third act. And this tripe was anything but.
So, in Conclusion:
I hope to grunt that Nolan sees the obvious flaws in Singer’s messy homage and avoids them like the plague; I’m still quite trepidacious when it comes to this Nolan grandfathered reboot, because what works for Batman doesn’t work for Superman, and Superman Returns proves it.




August 4, 2010 at 6:16 PM
First off, just like to say I agree with almost everything you said.
Second, I really don’t see the need to worry about Nolan’s involvement. You pick up a copy of Year One and you see how very much Nolan’s Batman is like the Batman in that comic. Point is Nolan is not a man with realism on the brain for everything he does. Realism works well for Batman, Nolan understands that Batman and Superman are completely different characters, so Nolan’s Superman is going to reflect Superman in the same way his Batman reflects who Batman is.
Third, don’t agree with 9. and 11.. The 9th one is kind of in line with the above paragraph. When it comes to SFX, Nolan will try to do things as real as possible (stunt work, models, etc.) if they can be just as effective or even more effective than CG. The stuff that needs to be CGI will be done that way, so there’s really no worries here. And I really don’t understand the complaints about the suit. The ‘S’ too small? The colors a shade darker than before? Who cares, but more importantly who has the will to even care about changes too insignificant? The suit is still recognizably Superman. The changes you make out to be horrifically damaging are nothing more than small aesthetic changes to a suit that still screams Superman. I’m not about to lose sleep over it.
September 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Little changes make a big impact, and the cumulative effect is what counts.
August 5, 2010 at 2:42 AM
Dammit man, totally agree on efery fucking line you wrote, great post.
August 5, 2010 at 2:47 AM
Thanks!
August 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM
i love superman
August 6, 2010 at 6:40 PM
I’m not sure what people were expecting, the movie wasn’t great but there too much bitching about things like plot and costumes.
Remember this is a FANTASY in a ‘world’ were criminals like Lex would try to make themselves ruler of an island and the US Army would just say “feh, what ya gonna do” [At the very least that new Krypton island would become the new US mainland since it destroyed most of the US]
In a fantasy world Superman can save a cat in a tree because there isn’t a three month old baby being raped in Africa by some one thats doing it to slough off his AIDS onto it.
And in this fantasy world people do have some more respect and TMZ probably doesn’t exist or would follow Lois all over
I did object to the whole baby daddy issues only because out of wedlock bastards are so fashionable and in the norm these days, Singer might as well have made Lois a light skinned black woman, I hope they rid the kid in the reboot.
I agree with the whole Fortress issue, those crystals should be coded to Kryptonian DNA at the least and Jor-El speaks perfect English to Lex? I found this dubious even in 1980.
I did find the ‘chemistry betwixt Clark & Lois more subtle but still there, the whole scene when he flies her “not like this” off the daily planet was good [gotta listen to the dialogue]
I’ll agree with the whole Kryptonite issue its never clear if a pound is the same as a mound, and the island was a construct mixed with actual earth material so … And Supes being punked and humiliated seems to be the only way he ever learns to fight.
And the whole Superman V. Clark issue is part of the fantasy even without the glasses Clark is SO different from Supes no one would ever know they are the same person [its one of those things that have to be accepted for a movie like this to work]
The acting by all & esp. Spacey was more than good, the whole “who’s that boys father?” showed a more evil than comical Lex.
September 26, 2010 at 8:43 PM
But as I said…if it was so “good” why wasn’t a sequel with the same cast greenlit immediately?
They haven’t even released the FIRST Green Lantern movie and they’re working on the sequel.
September 28, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Because of the way you came in.
As soon as someone makes a statement like, “there’s too much bitching about plot and costumes” then there’s no need to go any further. It means you don’t have a basic understanding of what makes the genre work. And then to make an equally ignorant statement that “it’s because of people like me that it took over a quarter of a century to do a decent Superman movie” is just really kind of laughable. And pitiful.
And, oh yeah, it’s MY blog, so I don’t remember where I owe you some kind of response. If you don’t like what I have to say, go start your own blog. The internet is a big place.
August 11, 2010 at 2:57 AM
Superman Returns was just plain “tired”! So, I’m with you on that score…
Kelly
September 3, 2010 at 5:04 AM
I do agree with a lot of the stuff you said and I do agree that us many fans want to see Superman kick ass in the new film and make it look as real and accurate as possible. But I disagree with you about his powers on a certain point about his powers – for the “dense molecular structure” part…I believe I’ll buy that, since I’m a fan of the Richard Donner’s film and even General Zod said it himself in Superman 2 so he does not only get his power from the yellow sun but is also charged from the sun, which means he could increase his powers. In fact, if he is to fly closer and closer towards or even into the yellow sun, he can absorb enormous amounts from the sun’s energy and not only making him even more powerful but capable of reaching very god-like levels and becoming faster than the speed of light, according to the comic.
And I disagree what you said about Smallville because there probably a few more things that has to be done in the storyline in the 10th and last season and a couple things that has to be done with Clark – changing some things about himself and be introducing a couple more DC characters to some people aren’t familiar with and then will be wrapped up with Clark in finally flying and eventually becoming Superman. I have always been a Superman fan all my life, always will be. And I have been watching the show since I was in high school and I know some fans don’t want it to end but in order for Clark Kent to finally become, the show has to end and hear it’ll probably be the best season.
Now, I agree you saying Superman returns was a flop and Routh may looked the part he didn’t make the character believable enough, sadly. Tom Welling on the other hand, did – rather he’s playing the evil version of himself while being exposed to red kryptonite or as Clark kent – so, he has the ability to play good or evil and he makes it believable so thats good talent right there. Now, I admit, I was concerned about his acting at first when the show started. But as the years went by and I have watched him become this respectable actor and in real life, he is a good guy and I don’t care what some of these ignorant people say about him. After 10 long years being in the Smallvile series – years, thats a long time and I take my hat off to the cast and crew for that show for their long run and Tom Welling has helped the show being kept alive and unlike Routh for Superman returns, the series continued on being a success so you gotta give him the props. But now it’s time to wrap the show up with Clark becoming Superman.
And after ten long years, he worked very hard building his character, becoming a better actor and at the same time, he’s gained the most experience, potential and he’s proved time after time, season, after season that he does have the chops to take the next step for the character as the man of steel on the big screen and I’m not saying because I’m a Smallville fanboy but as a Superman fan. Even the actor himself admitted that he’s always been open to the idea and he’s has earned the right to be given a chance for the role and it would do justice for Tom, for many Smallville/Superman fans alike around the world and the future producer and director for the rebooted Superman film has to realize that and WB should do the right thing. But hey, whatever happens, happens but in case if Tom Welling does get the part, well, than the very least we can do is give him a chance. But like I said, we’ll never know until then.
And I yes, I agree there should be a reboot and after SR, it’s not really good enough to have a “good” Superman movie and Hollywood series had better not mess it up like they did with Dragonball Evoluation – NO, not again, not with Superman because we need an “AWESOME” Superman movie, that needs to be far more superior and better than Superman returns in every way. And they should keep the original John Williams version’s score because when that song was first forged, it became an epic musical masterpiece that could give you goosebumps and whenever you hear it, you think of Superman, theres nothing like and it and has become the quintassential theme song for Superman and it wouldn’t feel the same without it.
September 26, 2010 at 8:45 PM
It sounds like you’re trying to make a case for Tom Welling being the next big screen Superman…my overall point was that, *whoever* it is, it needs to work, and the larger context of the movie needs to be cohesive.
October 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM
I still don’t understand the nerd-rage over the costume. Ok, so the little S’s were a little contrived, but complaining about a heavy cape? He’s Superman! Singer probably wanted a cape that had a more commanding presence than a sheet of faux-silk strapped to his shoulders. And I personally thought the muted color scheme looked quite good, especially considering how grating pure RGB red can look blown up on an IMAX screen.
You make a lot of genuinely good points about what was wrong with Superman Returns (The pacing, the miscasting of Kate Bosworth and the groan inducing villainous scheme in particular), but some of your grievances fall less on the realm of making a good film and more on the realm of “BUT IT WASN’T LIKE THAT IN THE COMIXXX”.
October 10, 2010 at 9:42 PM
I wasn’t really saying the thing about it being like the comics, but more so that I thought the overall choices were poor, and then the synergy of a litany of poor choices wrecked the movie.
October 13, 2010 at 4:31 PM
While it’s obviously not the same situation as Batman, the same avenue that the BM redux took will be implemented here. Expect a very contemporary take on the story (which in my opinion is more than welcome). – If there’s one thing BMBegins/ TDKnight taught us, it’s that it can be quite contemporary (i.e. non-fantastical world, with subtle fantasy added) and still work.
October 13, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Well, we’ll definitely have to see how it goes.
October 25, 2010 at 9:26 PM
All this movie need was 3 changes, 1. Lex mention the word superboy before escaping the boat (i could see that in his expression).. 2. Superman putting fighting Lex’s henchmen instead of them beating him up. 3. Theres a delete scene stating that island was still growing between Mars and Jupitar. New kypton anyone? might have attracted a certain Brainic or Zod and maybe a sequel.
November 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM
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December 2, 2010 at 10:16 PM
An enjoyable read. I saw the movie in the theatre and thought it was a mess, you really break it down in a clear way to what was wrong with it.
December 2, 2010 at 10:26 PM
Thanks!
I hope that Zach Snyder can do a good job with this reboot.
December 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM
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December 27, 2010 at 3:33 AM
It’s a damn shame, because this movie could have been brilliant. The cinematography was gorgeous! But that means nothing when the rest of the film is just bland. Bryan Singer is just full of himself, that’s what I think. He didn’t care about making a great film, just about making a quick buck on opening weekend.
December 27, 2010 at 3:44 AM
I don’t know if it was making a quick buck, but moreso, making a movie that was what he himself personally wanted to see regardless of the rest of his audience.
December 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM
Exactly, when I was watching that documentary a little bit ago, he just had such an arrogant attitude.
February 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM
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February 12, 2011 at 11:09 PM
i agreed on almost everything…except the three act structure part. Three act structures are for Hollywood hacks.
but back to the rest of the list…great job!
February 12, 2011 at 11:21 PM
Thanks!
February 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM
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March 27, 2011 at 12:06 PM
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March 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM
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March 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM
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March 31, 2011 at 5:47 PM
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February 29, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Nice. Dude I laughed out loud with So many comments you made and unfortunately they are true.
I refuse to watch Superman being yanked and bitch slapped on that island while yelling out, “I’m still Superman!! ” Really Singer? Of all the Superman movies and cartoons… The animated movie with Batman… Apocalypse was the best version of how he is. When they were on warworld and those parademons were flying down to attack…he stood there not flinching with a “bring it” look on his face. And to see Darkseid grab his cape as he walked by….loved it.
February 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Yeah. This movie, besides the airplane sequence, was just abominable.